mrfook (Nov 12 2010, 11:34 AM) said: > original post
Well it was more stating a fact rather than complaining though.
Why? Do you think it a good thing that many people have come to rely on this stuff so much?
I don't.
korrok (Nov 12 2010, 11:45 AM) said: > original post
I'm happy with electronics and technology and gadgets. No point fighting the tide. I'm not the "MUST HAVE NEW IPHONE" type person, but I easily adapt to new electronics. I don't want to end up like my parents - my mother isn't even 50 and she has no idea how to switch on a computer, use a mobile phone, hell a TV remote is about as far as it goes for her. My dad is only marginally better! Who wants to be like that?
I DO think however that children shouldn't be given all kinds of "adult" gadgets (phones etc) at a young age and I don't think an iPod is a good replacement for traditional toys, simply because basic toys and games are important in developing creativity and imagination. As well as preserving what little innocence they get these days...
And Sabetsu: WoW ftw.
sabetsu (Nov 13 2010, 11:30 AM) said: > original post
Alliance or Horde?
korrok (Nov 13 2010, 11:53 AM) said: > original post
Was Horde from 2006 till the summer, but now Alliance on Steamwheedle Cartel. Going for a worgen druid main in a few weeks! ;D
korrok (Nov 13 2010, 11:53 AM) said: > original post
Was Horde from 2006 till the summer, but now Alliance on Steamwheedle Cartel. Going for a worgen druid main in a few weeks! ;D
korrok (Nov 12 2010, 11:45 AM) said: > original post
I DO think however that children shouldn't be given all kinds of "adult" gadgets (phones etc) at a young age and I don't think an iPod is a good replacement for traditional toys, simply because basic toys and games are important in developing creativity and imagination. As well as preserving what little innocence they get these days...
nfxandrew (Nov 15 2010, 01:03 AM) said: > original post
Are you confused about what an ipod actually does? Not sure if scrabble is going to be a good study, workout, city travel aid....
korrok (Nov 15 2010, 09:24 AM) said: > original post
Derp derp, I own an iPod. It's primarily an mp3 player?
It doesn't provide a good study aid, unless one is studying from some crappy little apps on the touch, and you'd be better off with those umm...book things (or a Kindle if you must tech up).
It doesn't provide a good city travel aid, as only the more recent ones have wi-fi (like mine, an iPod touch) and you cannot use that unless you're in a free wi-fi zone, unlike the iPhone which you can use anywhere to figure out how to get around - same as any net-enabled phone, including my several year old pushy-button Nokia here. And...why is a kid going to be navigating a city by themselves anyway? O_o
And as for how an iPod helps you workout, I'm not entirely sure unless you mean pressing buttons for a major finger workout. Or are we implying that music FROM AN IPOD is the only way to enjoy music while working out?
TL;DR An iPod is a portable music player. Do kids really need a portable music player? Is it a good idea to let them block out half of their social interactions with headphones in their ears from a young age? Do kids even really NEED to spend a lot of time listening to (mostly highly sexualised) pop music at a pre-teen age? I don't think so.
Oh and god damn that useless game Scrabble, what does it ever do for anyone? Except perhaps teach some literacy and vocabulary beyond "hi how r u 2day lol gd gd"? Which seems to be what the majority of kids these days are going to school with. /rant
Would you freak out over a walkman too? nfxandrew (Nov 15 2010, 12:41 PM) said: > original post
It seems you made a lot of arguments against products that aren't the ipod? You are over analyzing it, and I have a feeling this is why you are freaking out about giving your kid a device that plays music.
Study: Can listen to music and drown out noise on the school bus, in the library, or just some random music to brighten up his study hour.
Working out: something to listen to while playing football, running, biking, etc. I doubt a kid has a gym membership, so not sure how you propose supplying music while the kid is outside.
City travel: Music makes the city buses much nicer.
You have a very warped perspective of the world.
korrok (Nov 15 2010, 01:06 PM) said: > original post
They especially do not need to drown out the noise of the world, because it's pretty counter-productive to all kinds of mental and social development.
wesleynl (Nov 15 2010, 01:30 PM) said: > original post
I agree. Could also be pretty dangerous, for children and adults alike, not being able to hear what's going on around you while out and about in the big wide world never mind ending up with hearing problems, some people having the volume too loud... I never understand why people feel the need to listen to these music things while walking/cycling etc. out and about the place, accident waiting to happen... also don't understand how people can listen to these things while reading a book or concentrating on studying, exams etc.. When I listen to music that I particularly like I tend to get lost in the music dreaming/fantasising away and can't do that while studying hard etc..
marlbjm (Nov 16 2010, 04:40 PM) said: > original post
I mean really, you guys never had walkmans/discmans when you were 10/12 years old?
marlbjm (Nov 16 2010, 04:40 PM) said: > original post
AH! And I do play Scrabble a lot...on my Ipod :)
wesleynl (Nov 16 2010, 06:15 PM) said: > original post
Um, no actually, I didn't. When I was 10 years old I really had nothing like that at all, not even a record player. In fact, I've never ever had a record player in my life and only got, for Xmas, a large cumbersome radio/cassette tape player when I was around 14. S'truth, young children really have it far too cushy these days...
wesleynl (Nov 4 2010, 02:44 PM) said: > original post
I just had a look online at Albert Heijn, they sell them at €1.99 for a 1kg pack of four...
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monkeynuts (Nov 3 2010, 11:15 AM) said: > original post
I always thought V&D was a classier type of shop, until ... well apart from the fact the electronic stuff is a ridiculous price ie: slow cooker: 89 euros. I can buy a slow cooker in the UK for 12 pounds - my brother bought one and it works great. He visited a short while ago and was literally on the floor laughing at the prices in V&D. But I digress. I looked for a pillow there about a year ago. There was a wooden type bin thing in the middle of the floor with some pillows that had been taken out of their plastic wrapping and looked rather grubby. I took one to the counter expecting they were in the bargain bin for a reason - but no they were full price which was 1000 times higher than I wanted to pay. I tried to explain to the ladies behind the till that they were out of their wrapping and dirty which normally means a discount. They had the grace to agree the pillows were dirty etc. but unfortunately couldn't offer any discount.
gretasmom (Nov 17 2010, 01:25 PM) said: > original post
Speaking of V&D and getting back to the original topic of "Dutch Customer Service", I was just in V&D yesterday buying a gift for my nieces's birthday. Got up to the kassa and realized there wasn't a price tag on the necklace I was buying. A very "helpful" Dutch salesgirl went over to get another necklace for a price check and came back with a similar one, but one with a larger "charm" on it. She the proceeds to ring it up. I told her that it wasn't the same nekclace that I was buying and asked her if she was sure it was the same price. She looked at me like I had two heads and said it was the same price. I asked her if she could go back and just check to make sure (very nicely)- I asked her to check the other necklaces that were the same as the one I was buying. She insisted it was the same price and told me to go and check myself. I refused and told her I didn't want to pay for something that I wasn't sure if I was being charged the right amount. Anyhoo, after some back and forth, and her refusing to go check, I bought the other things that I had and left the necklace with her. On the way out, I decided to just check and see if the prices was indeed the same.. and guess what.. it wasn't. The neckace she had chosen to do a price check was 2 euro more than the one I wanted to buy. Of course, wanting to prove my point, I brought the necklace back up to the kassa just to show her it was indeed, less than what she was going to charge me. Again, she just looked at me with big round eyes and her dumb stare and that was it. No, "sorry". No, "oh yes, you're right, I'm sorry". Just silence, crickets in the wind.... and her dumb stare. Oh well. That's my Dutch customer service story...
pepec (Nov 17 2010, 02:09 PM) said: > original post
A bit unfair Mr. Fook. Gretasmom is not the person who complains about everything. I agree that what happened is very annoying. And of course these things can happen everywhere, but in my opinion it is rather typical for V&D.
