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  • floepie
    floepie posted a topic in the forum Sport in the Netherlands:
    Which bike type is best for social/weekend clubs?
    It's hard to avoid the packs of guys on the weekends in their semi-pro gear cycling in their spiffy bikes.  So I thought it would be a great way to broaden my social circle by joining a club which gets together on a fairly regular basis.   But, in order to join, I'd first need to get a bike.  
     
    It seems the most popular bikes in these packs are the racing/road variety.  But, I think I'd rather go the route of a fitness/hybrid sort with its somewhat thicker 28mm tires.  And, although I don't need necessarily to fit in, I wouldn't also want to stick out like a sore thumb nor be limitied to a fewer groups because of the lack of a true racing bike.  
     ...  more
    It's hard to avoid the packs of guys on the weekends in their semi-pro gear cycling in their spiffy bikes.  So I thought it would be a great way to broaden my social circle by joining a club which gets together on a fairly regular basis.   But, in order to join, I'd first need to get a bike.  
     
    It seems the most popular bikes in these packs are the racing/road variety.  But, I think I'd rather go the route of a fitness/hybrid sort with its somewhat thicker 28mm tires.  And, although I don't need necessarily to fit in, I wouldn't also want to stick out like a sore thumb nor be limitied to a fewer groups because of the lack of a true racing bike.  
     
    Do most clubs have certain requirements, or are they pretty informal in nature?  Judging by the selection of hybrid fiets in some of the local bike shops, the hybrid/fitness bikes seem very limited and fairly unpopular.  It seems most guys have either a stadsfiets or omafiets and/or a race fiets.  Is it that they...    less
    • July 29, 2012
  • floepie
    floepie replied to a topic in the forum Business and Finance in the Netherlands:
    mvn said:
    I told you that only your NL income is what needs to be considered, It is funny how the OP talks to himself and figures it out himself.
     
    Not very nuanced, are you.  But, you probably pride yourself on that.  Tax topics are very nuanced.  Although you wound up with the right answer, you didn't show your work, as they say in the classroom.  Very often, those who are belastingplicthtig may indeed exercise their "keuzerecht" with very real tax advantages as far as deductions go, especially for the portion of the year lived oultside of NL and paying a mortgage and for those with a fiscal partner with little to no wages.  While that info may not be directly applicable here, perhaps this thread may shed some light on the topic who may have arrived here by search.  ...  more
    mvn said:
    I told you that only your NL income is what needs to be considered, It is funny how the OP talks to himself and figures it out himself.
     
    Not very nuanced, are you.  But, you probably pride yourself on that.  Tax topics are very nuanced.  Although you wound up with the right answer, you didn't show your work, as they say in the classroom.  Very often, those who are belastingplicthtig may indeed exercise their "keuzerecht" with very real tax advantages as far as deductions go, especially for the portion of the year lived oultside of NL and paying a mortgage and for those with a fiscal partner with little to no wages.  While that info may not be directly applicable here, perhaps this thread may shed some light on the topic who may have arrived here by search.  
     
    You see, not too many folks simply hang out here with thousands of posts like you.  So, for the vast majority who visit, do so with the intent of answering a specific question or two via searches with...    less
    • June 15, 2012
  • floepie
    floepie replied to a topic in the forum Business and Finance in the Netherlands:
    I just called the belastingdienst. They confirmed that because there is no income from NL during the period outside of NL, all questions regarding the period ouside of NL do not need to need to be answered. Further, there is no keuzerecht in this case, an...  moreI just called the belastingdienst. They confirmed that because there is no income from NL during the period outside of NL, all questions regarding the period ouside of NL do not need to need to be answered. Further, there is no keuzerecht in this case, and there is also no penalty either way from not having the option. That is, you do not need to forfeit any income tax reductions, so you are elligible for both the income tax reduction portion as well as the reduction for the "volksverzekering" policy portion of the overal tax reductions. So, no worldwide incomes need be entered in the incomes section, and no worldwide incomes need be entered in the section of "incomes NL does not have the right to tax".  less
    • June 14, 2012
  • floepie
    floepie replied to a topic in the forum Business and Finance in the Netherlands:
    After re-reading the M tax form and the explanation, I think I've come to a different conclusion but there is a big question yet to be answered. If you look at question 1c, if there is no overlap of incomes of any sort during the year that one moves (away...  moreAfter re-reading the M tax form and the explanation, I think I've come to a different conclusion but there is a big question yet to be answered. If you look at question 1c, if there is no overlap of incomes of any sort during the year that one moves (away from or to NL), then you have a situation where it indicates: "De vragen die gaan over de buitenlandse periode hoeft u niet in te vullen."
    I interpret this to mean that all the questions in the entire tax form pertaining to the period in which you lived outside of NL do not get answered. I think that because we are not belastingplichtige (one who is required to pay NL taxes) for a portion of the year, it is not possible to be considered either buitenlandse (foreign) or binnenlandse (internal) belastingplichtige for the portion of the year outside of NL. And, because we are not binnenlandse belastingplichtige for a portion of the year, we cannot be considered binnenlandse belastingplichtige for the entire year. I think I have interpreted that correctly.
    So, it...    less
    • June 13, 2012
  • floepie
    floepie replied to a topic in the forum Business and Finance in the Netherlands:
    mvn said:
    You are making it too complicated. You are only liable for tax on the income you made in the NL as this is when you became resident. You did not make enough income that any of these tax credits you are troubling yourself about will make a difference. You can work it out yourself on all the forms and you will see you will get taxed the same amount and refunded the same amount whatever tax status you choose. Next year use an accountant and I hope you applied for the 30% ruling.
    That doesn't seem to fit with what I've been reading.  I seem to be in the same boat as I'm sure many others as well.  I moved to NL in March with no overlapping incomes.  Ten months lived and worked here and two months there.  What's at stake here is the "keuzerecht", where if you opt for it, you are considered a taxpayer for the entire year and you are entitled to both categories of tax reductions, the social volksverzekering portion as well as the income tax reductions.  
    If the "keuzerecht" is not take...  ...  more
    mvn said:
    You are making it too complicated. You are only liable for tax on the income you made in the NL as this is when you became resident. You did not make enough income that any of these tax credits you are troubling yourself about will make a difference. You can work it out yourself on all the forms and you will see you will get taxed the same amount and refunded the same amount whatever tax status you choose. Next year use an accountant and I hope you applied for the 30% ruling.
    That doesn't seem to fit with what I've been reading.  I seem to be in the same boat as I'm sure many others as well.  I moved to NL in March with no overlapping incomes.  Ten months lived and worked here and two months there.  What's at stake here is the "keuzerecht", where if you opt for it, you are considered a taxpayer for the entire year and you are entitled to both categories of tax reductions, the social volksverzekering portion as well as the income tax reductions.  
    If the "keuzerecht" is not take...    less
    • June 12, 2012
  • floepie
    floepie posted a topic in the forum Legal Problems in the Netherlands:
    Difficulty expiring first permit while waiting for renewal?
    It seems that one could face dire circumstances should the first-time limited residency permit expire while waiting for the renewal to become accepted.  In that case, is it possible to obtain a stamp in one's passport at the IND, for example, to rema...  moreIt seems that one could face dire circumstances should the first-time limited residency permit expire while waiting for the renewal to become accepted.  In that case, is it possible to obtain a stamp in one's passport at the IND, for example, to remain legally in NL?  
     
    Or, is there something returned by mail in relatively short order from the IND that could suffice as legal proof (in addition to the "just expired" original permit) once they receive your "request for lengthening the residence permit"? 
     
    Thanks for any replies...  less
    • February 14, 2012
  • floepie
    floepie posted a topic in the forum Travel & Transport in the Netherlands:
    How to obtain the 40% korting when travelling with OV chipkaart?
    Let's say two people are travelling together.  One has an abonnement (subscription) which allows up to 3 additional people to travel with the 40% discount.  How does that discount get applied when both are using their OV chipkaart?  Are pap...  moreLet's say two people are travelling together.  One has an abonnement (subscription) which allows up to 3 additional people to travel with the 40% discount.  How does that discount get applied when both are using their OV chipkaart?  Are paper tickets needed in those cases to ensure the 40% discount?  
    • August 10, 2011
  • floepie
    floepie posted a topic in the forum Travel & Transport in the Netherlands:
    How to obtain the Kids Vrij for free?
    The Kids Vrij (kids travel for free with their own personal OV chipkaart) subscription is normally 15 euro for one year.  In order to get this for free (without paying the 15 Euro), another subscription presumably from an adult is required to be purc...  moreThe Kids Vrij (kids travel for free with their own personal OV chipkaart) subscription is normally 15 euro for one year.  In order to get this for free (without paying the 15 Euro), another subscription presumably from an adult is required to be purchased at the same time.  
     
    How can this be done if the adult's paid-for subscription is carried out on an entirely different order?  I don't see a way of combining two different cards' subscriptions on one order so that the two subscriptions (the adult paid-for one and the Kids Vrij) can be ordered at the same time.  
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    • August 10, 2011
  • floepie
    floepie posted a topic in the forum Business and Finance in the Netherlands:
    Need proof of living abroad for 10 years?
    Hi, My wife (NL citizen) is in the process of applying for the 30% ruling.  This ruling applies to her in light of her having lived abroad for longer than 10 years.   The problem lies in the fact that she de-registrered from the gemeente *less* ...  moreHi, My wife (NL citizen) is in the process of applying for the 30% ruling.  This ruling applies to her in light of her having lived abroad for longer than 10 years.   The problem lies in the fact that she de-registrered from the gemeente *less* than 10 years ago (~ 9 years ago).  The tax accountants working on behalf of her employer are requesting additional evidence for the years in question.  
     
    We have tax documents in the form of US w-2 forms for the years in question (2000-2001).  Would this suffice in addition to a signed copy from her employer for those years?   Has anyone ever heard of the tax authorities overlooking the fact that the time since de-registration is less than the required 10 years with sufficient proof of living abroad for more than 10 years?  
     
    If the supporting evidence is not sufficient, can a portion of the 30% then be used for tax exemption, and if so, how would this apply to driver's license swaps?  Thanks any info....  less
    • June 28, 2011
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  • July 29, 2012 12:23:04 AM CEST
    in the topic Which bike type is best for social/weekend clubs? in the forum Sport in the Netherlands

    It's hard to avoid the packs of guys on the weekends in their semi-pro gear cycling in their spiffy bikes.  So I thought it would be a great way to broaden my social circle by joining a club which gets together on a fairly regular basis.   But, in order to join, I'd first need to get a bike.  

     

    It seems the most popular bikes in these packs are the racing/road variety.  But, I think I'd rather go the route of a fitness/hybrid sort with its somewhat thicker 28mm tires.  And, although I don't need necessarily to fit in, I wouldn't also want to stick out like a sore thumb nor be limitied to a fewer groups because of the lack of a true racing bike.  

     

    Do most clubs have certain requirements, or are they pretty informal in nature?  Judging by the selection of hybrid fiets in some of the local bike shops, the hybrid/fitness bikes seem very limited and fairly unpopular.  It seems most guys have either a stadsfiets or omafiets and/or a race fiets.  Is it that they are an undiscovered variety, or are they unpopular for a reason?

     

    Any thoughts for a newcomer to NL and someone who is new to the road bike? 

  • June 15, 2012 11:10:10 PM CEST
    in the topic M form help in the forum Business and Finance in the Netherlands
    mvn said:

    I told you that only your NL income is what needs to be considered, It is funny how the OP talks to himself and figures it out himself.

     

    Not very nuanced, are you.  But, you probably pride yourself on that.  Tax topics are very nuanced.  Although you wound up with the right answer, you didn't show your work, as they say in the classroom.  Very often, those who are belastingplicthtig may indeed exercise their "keuzerecht" with very real tax advantages as far as deductions go, especially for the portion of the year lived oultside of NL and paying a mortgage and for those with a fiscal partner with little to no wages.  While that info may not be directly applicable here, perhaps this thread may shed some light on the topic who may have arrived here by search.  

     

    You see, not too many folks simply hang out here with thousands of posts like you.  So, for the vast majority who visit, do so with the intent of answering a specific question or two via searches without posing their questions.  And, incidently, I'm not the OP.  But, the OP and I were both under the impression that we were given an option.  And, hopefully, with my "thinking out loud", I've been able to help with specific reasoning behind why or why not someone may be eligible for the choice.   

    This post was edited by floepie at June 15, 2012 11:10:10 PM CEST
  • June 14, 2012 1:00:08 PM CEST
    in the topic M form help in the forum Business and Finance in the Netherlands

    I just called the belastingdienst. They confirmed that because there is no income from NL during the period outside of NL, all questions regarding the period ouside of NL do not need to need to be answered. Further, there is no keuzerecht in this case, and there is also no penalty either way from not having the option. That is, you do not need to forfeit any income tax reductions, so you are elligible for both the income tax reduction portion as well as the reduction for the "volksverzekering" policy portion of the overal tax reductions. So, no worldwide incomes need be entered in the incomes section, and no worldwide incomes need be entered in the section of "incomes NL does not have the right to tax".

  • June 13, 2012 11:44:41 PM CEST
    in the topic M form help in the forum Business and Finance in the Netherlands

    After re-reading the M tax form and the explanation, I think I've come to a different conclusion but there is a big question yet to be answered. If you look at question 1c, if there is no overlap of incomes of any sort during the year that one moves (away from or to NL), then you have a situation where it indicates: "De vragen die gaan over de buitenlandse periode hoeft u niet in te vullen."


    I interpret this to mean that all the questions in the entire tax form pertaining to the period in which you lived outside of NL do not get answered. I think that because we are not belastingplichtige (one who is required to pay NL taxes) for a portion of the year, it is not possible to be considered either buitenlandse (foreign) or binnenlandse (internal) belastingplichtige for the portion of the year outside of NL. And, because we are not binnenlandse belastingplichtige for a portion of the year, we cannot be considered binnenlandse belastingplichtige for the entire year. I think I have interpreted that correctly.


    So, it seems those who are belstingplichtige while outside of the NL for a portion of the year, or even the entire year, are the only ones with this choice, or "keuzerecht". Still not quite sure though. For those who are not binnenlands belastingplichtige for the entire year, one is not entitled to the income tax portion of the overall tax deduction. It would seem incredibly unfair, especially in my situation where I spent 10 months here to have to give up that entire tax reduction. (Apparently the discount on the "volksverzekering" would apply however.)

    This post was edited by floepie at June 13, 2012 11:44:41 PM CEST
  • June 12, 2012 9:55:00 AM CEST
    in the topic M form help in the forum Business and Finance in the Netherlands
    mvn said:

    You are making it too complicated. You are only liable for tax on the income you made in the NL as this is when you became resident. You did not make enough income that any of these tax credits you are troubling yourself about will make a difference. You can work it out yourself on all the forms and you will see you will get taxed the same amount and refunded the same amount whatever tax status you choose. Next year use an accountant and I hope you applied for the 30% ruling.

    That doesn't seem to fit with what I've been reading.  I seem to be in the same boat as I'm sure many others as well.  I moved to NL in March with no overlapping incomes.  Ten months lived and worked here and two months there.  What's at stake here is the "keuzerecht", where if you opt for it, you are considered a taxpayer for the entire year and you are entitled to both categories of tax reductions, the social volksverzekering portion as well as the income tax reductions.  


    If the "keuzerecht" is not taken, you are only considered to be taxed on the time you lived and worked here, so only a portion of the 12 months.  But, the downside is that you are generally not entitled to the income tax reduction portion of the overall tax reduction.  


    In either case, of course you are still required to pay taxes on income derived from NL, but in one case you are entitled to one portion of the tax reduction, and in the other case, not.  If one does opt for the keuzerecht, then perhaps the disadvantage may be an overall higher tax rate for the year, which may be offset by the greater tax reductions?  It also seems that if you do opt for the keuzerecht, all income must be added from all sources for the entire year, even income you earned in your home country while living there, whereas that doesn't seem to be the case if you split up the year by rejecting the keuzerecht.


    I would expect there to be some sort of calculator where you can determine which option is more advantageous.  

    This post was edited by floepie at June 12, 2012 9:55:00 AM CEST
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