pepec (Mar 17 2011, 06:23 PM) said: > original post But since the incassoletter is dated the 17th and the payment the 15th, I think VdeJong has a pretty strong case.
I think so too, but I can see how the incasso buro might reason: if the final reminder stated, for example, "pay by the 12th or this case will be placed in the hands of an incasso buro," then the buro would already have the case on its books by the 15th, when the bill was paid.
I think it might depend on what your final reminder said: if they said "pay by a certain date, or we will hand it over to an incasso buro", and you missed paying by that date, then you are probably liablefor the costs incurred.
Lol! I e-mailed my daughter about this today and I got this reply (I swear she never told me, I would have remembered if she had):
"I'd save my money if I were you!
Remember I told you about this after I got conned out of 85 euro's and a trainticket to Zwolle???? My vergunning had already run out half a year and I phoned them in a panic asking if this was a problem (because they usually send you a letter telling you to renew it), they told me no, just send in all your stuff and a photo and a couple of weeks later I was picking mine up....talking to the baliemedewerkster and she said it was no longer obligatory....after I had just paid all that money! I remember telling you this.... "
Now since we have both had a similar experience, I won't go as far as to say this is straighforward deception, but it seems pretty odd to me that they are witholding this information from people unless thay actually ask or find out via other chanels. Instead of a reminder, they could just have sent out letters stating that renewal is no longer mandatory but is recommended.
Wesley, I was totally naive back then. I swallowed the whole story about freedom of movement for EU workers hook, line and sinker. If I hadn't had support, I would probably have returned, embittered, to the UK.
Well, that's who it is "intended" for. And I've had gemeente bureaucrats and inbuggering teachers say right to my face that it's "not really for youuuuu..."
I suspect international law prevented them from restricting the inburgering to non-westerners, CW.
Same thing with this law about dual nationality: they used to allow it, then decided it was not in the interests of integration and banned it. Now who is in most need of integration, we may ask? Then it was announced that dual nationality would still be possible in the case of immigrants who were not allowed to renounce their nationalities by the mother country. So EU citizens can not have dual nationality but Moroccans, Iranians and others can. I'm not knocking these nationalities, but surely they were the main groups that needed most encouragement to integrate?
I didn't know that either, CW. I seem to recall when it was introduced that it was for immigrants from non-western countries with a vastly different culture. A girl in my ballroom dancing class took the test last week, she's from Peru and is marrying a Dutchman.