pepec (Nov 29 2010, 12:17 PM) said: > original post
Don't people in London have kids and settle down? Obvious that Dutch guy you met, socialized in London with people with a busy social life. People like that also exist in the Netherlands. But apparently his friends have settled down. That doesn't mean that all Dutch people did the same. Restaurants, bars, theatres in Amsterdam are busy every day of the week. So not everyone is sitting on the couch watching television.
monkeynuts (Nov 29 2010, 05:41 PM) said: > original post
It seems that here if you have small kids then that's it - get into work at 6.00 to avoid traffic, leave at 16.00, have dinner at 18.00, in bed at 22.00. Then slip into middle age and then retire.
illuminatus (Nov 29 2010, 02:16 PM) said: > original post
Italy is a real country with real culture & real people.
pepec (Nov 29 2010, 11:17 AM) said: > original post
Don't people in London have kids and settle down?
cloggieking (Nov 29 2010, 06:38 PM) said: > original post
I take it you haven't visited the UK then? Brits breed at the age of 15 which is when you see them with their strollers around the estates so in their 30's the kids have left the house to start their own family and while the 30 somethings are grandparents by then they have plenty of disposable income due to the interest-rates being low!
So they spend it on kiwi's, beer, tea and buying apartments to let along the costa del sol. ;)
mrfook (Nov 29 2010, 05:44 PM) said: > original post
Tell me about it!
I'm a great grandad and am only 48 ! LOL!
monkeynuts (Nov 29 2010, 02:11 PM) said: > original post
Look, you haven't lived in the UK for an awful long time, so forgive me for drawing on my own experences.
cloggieking (Nov 29 2010, 06:46 PM) said: > original post
And still a cool guy, good for you ;)
but generally, a pub or a good concert will do the trick illuminatus (Nov 29 2010, 03:16 PM) said: > original post
You can bloody say that again!!
I'm having a crisis moment (again)
Over the weekend me & my girlfriend were seriously talking about quitting this god dam country and heading back to Italy.
I lived there prior to NL, she wants to go back, and we were discussing about what I would do job wise. I have still quite a bit of knowledge of Italian. much more than with Dutch.
Italy is a real country with real culture & real people.
pepec (Nov 29 2010, 06:51 PM) said: > original post
Now I am confused. So are these people grandmother, son and grandchild? Or is there still a generation in between?
Very handsome people also.
mrfook (Nov 29 2010, 06:27 PM) said: > original post
Dear me - no wonder you're having a 'dull' time.
mrfook (Nov 29 2010, 06:19 PM) said: > original post
I was joking....but thanks anyway.
mrfook (Nov 29 2010, 06:19 PM) said: > original post
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All these comments about the uk...there are 'quick developers' in Texas as well aren't they?
marlbjm (Nov 29 2010, 07:47 PM) said: > original post
Where in Italy have you lived Illuminatus?
My family is from Merate, a bit north of Monza. I LOVE Italy, but my husband wouldnt even consider living there for a minute.
And for the record, people become dull because they want to become dull. I have three kids and I still go out, travel, go to concerts...I even managed to backpack with an infant when I had to. Also, not going to clubs does not necessarily mean boring. I never liked clubs, I prefer pubs, karaoke bars and house parties, so defining boring as noy liking the club scene is rather narrow. Different people like different things I guess. I wouldnt go to a rave or a club playing that sort of crap even if you paid me big money. I like clubs on 80s or 90s nights tho
cloggieking (Nov 29 2010, 06:38 PM) said: > original post
I take it you haven't visited the UK then? Brits breed at the age of 15 which is when you see them with their strollers around the estates so in their 30's the kids have left the house to start their own family and while the 30 somethings are grandparents by then they have plenty of disposable income due to the interest-rates being low!
So they spend it on kiwi's, beer, tea and buying apartments to let along the costa del sol.
illuminatus (Nov 30 2010, 09:45 AM) said: > original post
I lived in Siena, Toscana. that's where my girlfriends from, just outside the city walls about 4 km away.
Siena can be a little boring sometimes (it's full of old people & tourists) but we were always going to Firenze & Bologna and had some pretty amazing times there! not to mention how easy it was to get to know people!!
After 6 months of first moving there I already knew around 7 people who I could phone up & meet, but in NL, after nearly 10 years I don't know any Dutch persons at all.
I've come to realise that Dutch people are nothing more than a bunch of socially inept, retards!!
When I was in Italy and trying with Italian, NOT ONCE did anyone go 'ugh, ugh, and never ever the blank dumb look.
Definitely not the same as the Dutch mrfook (Nov 29 2010, 07:27 PM) said: > original post
Dear me - no wonder you're having a 'dull' time.
ian (Nov 30 2010, 07:38 PM) said: > original post
Seconded. The people who whinge on here about friendships...
Let's see, you're an expat and they aren't, you don't have a first language in common with the locals, nor an upbringing, nor a culture, and you like nothing better to whinge about all of the above and how it's so much better at home.
Why do you think they'd want to be friends with you again?
I thought that the point was made that it's harder here than in other countries that also don't have the same language/culture (even from, apparently, a Dutch persons point of view) etc., etc., blah, blah, blah... ian (Nov 30 2010, 07:38 PM) said: > original post
Seconded. The people who whinge on here about friendships...
Let's see, you're an expat and they aren't, you don't have a first language in common with the locals, nor an upbringing, nor a culture, and you like nothing better to whinge about all of the above and how it's so much better at home.
Why do you think they'd want to be friends with you again?
monkeynuts (Nov 30 2010, 08:22 PM) said: > original post
Just give it up and stop trying to make something out of nothing.
mrfook (Dec 1 2010, 09:20 AM) said: > original post
Indeed.
illuminatus (Dec 1 2010, 11:15 AM) said: > original post
Yes, indeed.
Ok, that's it. I no longer want anything to do with the Dutch people anymore!
They're all too stupid and retarded anyway.
ratkat (Dec 1 2010, 11:30 AM) said: > original post
I wonder if it's the weather too - I had the same moment a few days ago at Albert Heijn - I just suddenly had a "that's it" moment and decided I can't live around people who behave like this anymore... the dead eyes/blank look really gets to me now....and I'm getting on and am not confident in Dutch healthcare to help me if/when something goes wrong :-( The only problem now is my business is doing better than it ever has (and during and maybe due to "the crisis"), so it's a scary prospect to up and leave into unknown waters. Still, I am so fed up that I am probably willing to take the risk, for better or for worse....
