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cool_john
- 82 posts
May 10, 2012 11:21:21 AM CEST

Hello.

I am KM and living in NL from last 6 years. I am busy with inburgering exam ( one part is done, second part will be finished by July or Aug,2012). Meanwhile I got info that I will have my job till Nov, 2012. After that I can go to redeployment center for a period of maximum 9 months.

I also heard that it takes around 1 year time to get Dutch Passport.

Now my question is:

1. If I apply for Dutch citizenship once I have my diploma say in September, 2012. Then at certain point, I may go to redeployment center while my application is pending.

Will it have any impact on my application for Dutch Passport?

2. Same scenario as mentioned above but I loose my job while my application is pending.

Will it have any impact on my application for Dutch Passport?

3. Generally how much time will it take to get permanent residence card from IND ?

Thanks.
lion05
- 9 posts
May 13, 2012 8:59:54 PM CEST

HI
The answers for your questions
1& 2. As far as I know the naturalisation is nothing to do with your job. But you need to be officially in NL to get the citizenship.
3. PR will take approximately 4 months after you applied
Hope this helps
avocado
- 632 posts
May 14, 2012 11:22:58 AM CEST

cool_john said:

Hello.

I am KM and living in NL from last 6 years. I am busy with inburgering exam ( one part is done, second part will be finished by July or Aug,2012). Meanwhile I got info that I will have my job till Nov, 2012. After that I can go to redeployment center for a period of maximum 9 months.

I also heard that it takes around 1 year time to get Dutch Passport.

Now my question is:

1. If I apply for Dutch citizenship once I have my diploma say in September, 2012. Then at certain point, I may go to redeployment center while my application is pending.

Will it have any impact on my application for Dutch Passport?

2. Same scenario as mentioned above but I loose my job while my application is pending.

Will it have any impact on my application for Dutch Passport?

Both, yes. You have to have a valid residence permit up until and including the day of your naturalization ceremony. Be careful if you are assuming that your residence permit will be valid after you lose your job in November 2012-- it will only continue to be valid if you have not lost your job through your own fault (and you did not sign a termination agreement), and then in that case you will only be allowed to be registered as a jobseeker at the UWV for 3 months without losing your residence permit.

3. Generally how much time will it take to get permanent residence card from IND ?

Thanks.

About 3-4 months. That is actually a better option, to apply for a permanent residence permit first. Because an application for a permanent residence permit is processed retrospectively, i.e. as of the day the IND received the application. That means that if you no longer have a valid residence permit at the moment the IND processes your application, say 3 months after you sent it, that's not a problem.

Jeremy Bierbach, LLM

www.immigrate.nl
cool_john
- 82 posts
May 15, 2012 8:09:53 PM CEST

Thanks Lions and avocado.

This led me to another question -
Case 1: If some one has permanent residence card and he lose his job then till how many days/months he can stay in NL when employer fires him/her?

Case 2. : same as above but employee resign.
ouloveit3
- 608 posts
May 15, 2012 8:41:07 PM CEST

I have the Permana nt residence permit .. and you don´t have to remain employed to keep this permit once it has been granted.

So it does not matter if you quit your job or you get fired.

You can just live off your savings if you want .. because it doesn´t matter.
cool_john
- 82 posts
May 15, 2012 9:33:21 PM CEST

Thanks Ouloveit3.

Is it possible to apply for Dutch passport and permanent residency simultaneously ?
melloncoli
- 74 posts
May 15, 2012 10:20:47 PM CEST

Don't mind me, I'm eavesdropping!
lion05
- 9 posts
May 15, 2012 10:32:08 PM CEST

cool_john
you can apply for both
I did the same
Lion05
cool_john
- 82 posts
May 17, 2012 12:30:43 AM CEST

Thank you guys for your help.
chipotle
- 1 posts
May 31, 2012 9:53:14 PM CEST

Hello,

I've a somewhat similar problem, could you guys help?

I've been living in the Netherlands for the past 4 years, working as kennismigrant. Next year when the 5 years pass, I would like to apply for Dutch citizenship and permanent residence at the same time. My conundrum is that I would like to move to Germany to live with my boyfriend as soon as I can, but want to get Dutch citizenship first.

My question is, once I receive the permanent residency card, can I quit my job and spend time in Germany while waiting for the citizenship to come through? Or would that violate the terms of permanent residency? Also, do I need to be employed all throughout the citizenship application process until the naturalization ceremony, or is that not necessary?

Thanks a lot.
RitaSmith
- 1 posts
February 28, 2013 5:05:36 PM CET

Hi there, I hope by now you guys already have a dutch citizenship. How long did the procedure took for you? Are you still getting your 30% ruling ? Help needed.
Thank you in advance.
lion05
- 9 posts
February 28, 2013 6:20:49 PM CET

RitaSmith said:
Hi there, I hope by now you guys already have a dutch citizenship. How long did the procedure took for you? Are you still getting your 30% ruling ? Help needed. Thank you in advance.

Hi

It varies from 4 to 6 months

I changed my job after the citizenship and applied for 30% (for the remaining period)

They just simply extended the 30% ruling

VHP