An English language job advert is specifying "Native Dutch Speaker". Sorry, but I don't see the difference between this and "we only want a Dutch person".
A number of people have replied to the LinkedIn thread asking about the role but are all being fobbed off with the same answer. To me they're simply attempting to get around the legal issue of stating that they only want a particular nationality (which I always thought IS illegal).
Is specifying "Native Dutch Speaker" (as opposed to Dutch Speaker) actually legal or not?
Umm do you actually know what the word Racist... means?
It has to do with 'Race' and the Dutch are not a race. DUH!! 
You should leave the country if you are so embittered and hateful of the place.
It becomes race (however imagined) when Dutch bureaucrats classify white Dutch as one definition, and then other people based on Western or non-Western. Look up eugenics on Wikipedia to get the full meaning.
A typically Dutch response -> "Oh if you don't like it you can leave the country." It's exactly this kind of "*&^%*&^ you I don't care" attitude that will get you REALLY far in life in any other country on the planet. (Real far.)
Yes, listen to the Dutch whine and moan endlessly about how people don't integrate or become part of society.... and then when someone does say something, they then start going on about you can't complain, criticize or call them out.
If the government passed a law that all foreigners had to jump off bridges, I bet that you'd be among the first to do so.
Yes, another paranoid, nutcase, with..a...persecution...complex. Hee hee!
Again, if you don't like it here ... 'you should leave the country'. 
Hey, it's fun to yank the chain on folks like you that can't find their way back to their own countries.
You are so EASSSY!
ouloveit3 said:
I think it is legal actually. It's their country ..
It's my country, and it's illegal.
Employers can only demand fluency in a language if fluency in that language can reasonably deemed necessary for doing the job required. As evidenced by that link, not even the position of language teacher is deemed to be worthy of requiring a native speaker.
ouloveit3 said:
I think it is legal actually. It's their country .. so you have to abide by their laws .. which may or may not be like the laws in your home country.
ouloveit2, your answers are sure full of hatred! You need to get to the toilet and let go of that old stool. Perhaps stop eating so much cheese and then you can have a daily poo!
SwampedZombie said:
ouloveit3 said:
I think it is legal actually. It's their country ..It's my country, and it's illegal.
Employers can only demand fluency in a language if fluency in that language can reasonably deemed necessary for doing the job required. As evidenced by that link, not even the position of language teacher is deemed to be worthy of requiring a native speaker.
ouloveit2, think about what you just said, your in holland and you got a job to fill do u think you should be asking for native dutch in HOLLAND? That's kind of stupid if you ask me
tiggerinadam said:
OK, so slanging matches & name calling aside - I'm still none the wiser on this issue. My assumption is that the employer was discriminating against non-native Dutch speakers (but Dutch speakers nevertheless) in favour of native Dutch speakers... ie "we only want proper Dutchies, not foreigners who have learned the language".
The Commissie Gelijke Behandeling is the main ruling body for the interpretation of Dutch anti-discrimination laws. My reply had a link to a ruling on a similar case. If you look through their archives, you'll find that whenever an employer has tried to use the criterium 'native speaker', they've been found to be in the wrong.
Employers can demand fluency, and they can even demand that the speaker have no accent, but they have to make a strong case that this is necessary to perform the job required. Looking through the CGB archives, a taxi driver doesn't need fluency in Dutch, but a call center operator may well be rejected for her accent.
I don't know what job you were talking about when you started this thread. But most likely, the agency or organisation who posted the job advert was doing something illegal, and they knew it.
rh_nl said:
being able to speak to you in the language of the land is a reasonable request.
Absolutely - and thankfully I can do so.
My concern was in the wording "NATIVE Dutch Speaker" which suggests something entirely different - ie that they only want Dutch candidates, not Dutch speaking non-Dutch candidates.
Ah well, I'll let this one drop as it likely won't be resolved.
