geko said:
Hello,
My spouse (Portuguese) and I (American) are planing on moving to the Netherlands within the next month or so.
I am trying to fully understand the immigraiton process ahead of time so we can be best prepared once we move.
Neither of us have jobs in the Netherlands at the moment, I have a couple phone interviews lined up. I understand the work situation in the Netherlands for non-dutch speakers is not very good, but that is a subject for a different thread.
As I understand it the process upon arrival is something like the following:
1. Obtain place to live/rental contract/proof of occupancy (tricky without job, nevertheless)
2. With proof of address register with municipality (gemeente) and obtain BSN
- -a. EU - Passport and proof of address required. After obtaining BSN EU national goes to IND for residence permit
- -b. Non-EU - Passport, proof of address, evidence of application to IND (?)
- --Evidence of application for residency to the IND - Call and arrange for a meeting/open applicaiton. Obtain proof of scheduled meeting/open applicaiton
- -Register with Gemeente, obtain BSN.
- -Finish residency applicaiton with IND.
Please correct me if I am mistaken on any of the above steps, or add to the above where you see fit.
Yes, understand though that housing and jobs are basically tied ... to your residency here. :)
Hi, I am American too and I came here for work over 11 years ago.
There are a couple of options for you.
You as a Non Eu person can only move here if:
a) A company hires you and must give you a Working Permit – now named a KM permit.
b) Your Eu husband sponsors you to be here
a) A company hires you. For this option, you cannot move here to live .. unless you already have a job that is willing to give you this KM permit. (You can visit here for up to 3 months legal and in that time.. look for work. After 3 months you must leave or you will be here illegally.
The job, must pay 27k if you are under 30 and 51k if you are 30 and over. If they hire you, they will give you a Work Contract – they will not require you to speak Dutch for these KM jobs. They will also apply for the KM permit for you. Your hubby can then join you because Eu people do not need any permits to move here.
In fact your EU can move here ALONE anytime he likes – you just cannot come with him unless he has taken care of the above.
Your question: 1. Obtain place to live/rental contract/proof of occupancy (tricky without job, nevertheless)
When you try to rent, show them your Work Contract and show your salary and you will have no trouble finding a place to live. Well, except the obvious which is that rental housing is expensive. 
You cannot rent a legal place without a job – yes. You could rent illegally but you will be found out fast! Rental housing is very different than The States and very difficult. Buying is best – but that is another story.
Once you find a place MAKE SURE you ask the landlord if you can register yourself at the Gemeente with that address. This is required by law. If he says no.. the place is illegal.
Of course, you could stay at a long term hotel or hostel where you are automatically registered – until you find housing.
Your question 2: With proof of address register with municipality (gemeente) and obtain BSN
Yes, see above.
b) Your Eu hubby sponsors you. He has to move here and get a job first that pays at least (I believe) 1441 a month (this number changes). He has to go to the Belastingdeinst (tax man) and ask for a BSN number before he can start work. This is like a SSN. If he does not speak Dutch .. he will have a hard time finding work .. and I am putting this lightly!
Once he does find work, he can apply for a Residence permit for you to move here. With this residence permit – you are also able to apply for a job. The catch is - yes, you can apply – but since you are not a KM worker, you have to compete with regular Dutch applicants (like your husband) that can do your work AND they speak fluent Dutch and English. So then it is very difficult to find work for you as well.
Gemeente (Town Hall registration)
Yes, but an EU national is not required to get a residence permit – though it is nice to have, just for convenience sake.
Umm if you are non eu, you have to register at the Gemeente just like a Eu person. In fact everyone living here must do this. You don’t need to arrange a meeting .. just show up with all your papers.
This has already been done earlier – see above.
There is more … this will just get you started.
geko said:
ouloveit3, I have never seen anything that would require an EU person moving to another EU country find work in order to bring their non-eu spouse. I already have EU residency and as I understand, am granted the same freedom of movement rights as my spouse so long as they are exercising their treaty rights. As for your other information, thank you for your reply.
The treaty requires your EU spouse to have a job or sufficient assets in the bank in order to sponsor a partner here. There is no absolute right of settlement in the EU, without jobs or assets you don't fall within the treaty rules.
Christian Barth, Attorney
Well, I see now that he has even deleted his first post and his third post. So he has deleted all his posts. Now that's small.
But it does no good .. because I quoted his first post ... so we can still all see it.
All I can say is Wowwwww.
If you are holding an EU passport and you have a job, then you don't need any permits of course and you can just move here and start work.
For your Non EU wife, it is easy. You would get the form from the IND (www.ind.nl) to apply for a Residence permit (which doubles as a Working Permit) for your wife. So you are sponsoring your wife to be here.
There will be no problem with this clearing for your wife.
