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• kkkist

  
   

  August 23, 2007 5:10:58 PM CEST

  I would like to know is it possible for me to do PACS (a French civil union ("pacte civil de solidarité" - PACS) with my lesbian partner if I don't have a EU passport?
  
  She is French, we have been together for 2 years, last year I came to Paris and learn French, now we decided to have a life together. Does anyone know what is the procedure and how long does it take?
  
  If we do the PACS, do I have the right to stay in Paris?
  
  Thanks?
• chris67

  
   

  September 21, 2007 9:49:15 PM CEST

  Yes, you can sign a PACS with your French partner at your "Tribunal d'Instance". They are not even entitled to check if you have a "Titre de séjour" or valid visa to stay in France. Even two non-French citizens can sign a PACS if they are actually living in France.
  
  I've just been through this with my boyfriend.
  
  First thing to do is to pop in at your local Tribunal d'Instance to get a list of the documents required (this list has been updated Feb 2007)
  
  Among others, both of you will need:
  - Contrat de PACS (your wedding contract)
  - Acte de naissance (birth certificate)
  - Certificat de célibat (stating you're not married)
  - Certificat de non-Pacs (stating you've not signed another PACS)
  - Copy of your ID's
  - Attestation de vie commune (stating the couple's home address)
  The foreign partner will also need:
  - Certificat de Coutume
  - Certificat de non-inscription au répertoire civil (unless you can prove you've been staying in France for less than one year).
  
  All the documents from your home country/embassy must be translated into French by a "traducteur assermenté". All the documents must be recent (- 3 months).
  
  Just E-mail me for details about where to get which document and how long it takes to get them. Once you have all the documents, call your Tribunal d'Instance for an appointment and sign your PACS.
  
  Whether you will be allowed to stay in France is a different story.
  
  Since your partner is French, theoretically yes. This also depends on your current status in France.
  Once you have your PACS, you will have to apply for a "Titre de séjour" and prove the Préfecture that this is a long term relationship (more than 1 year together in France, without interruption). Don't even try if it's less than one year!
  
  E-mail me about how to prove this.
  
  If the Préfecture accepts your documents, the foreign partner will first get an "Autorisation Provisoire de Séjour", This APS can be renewed until you get a "Carte de Séjour". This second document will also allow you to work in France.
  
  At that point, it is also likely that the foreign partner will have to go through the ANAEM procedure (health-ckeck, language skills etc.).
  
  I hope all this will help you. Don't worry too much, it's only half as complicated as it looks. Good luck!
• edmundchristian

  
   

  December 1, 2009 11:46:24 AM CET

  
  

  chris67 (Sep 21 2007, 06:49 PM) said: > original post
  Yes, you can sign a PACS with your French partner at your "Tribunal d'Instance". They are not even entitled to check if you have a "Titre de séjour" or valid visa to stay in France. Even two non-French citizens can sign a PACS if they are actually living in France.
  
  I've just been through this with my boyfriend.
  
  First thing to do is to pop in at your local Tribunal d'Instance to get a list of the documents required (this list has been updated Feb 2007)
  
  Among others, both of you will need:
  - Contrat de PACS (your wedding contract)
  - Acte de naissance (birth certificate)
  - Certificat de célibat (stating you're not married)
  - Certificat de non-Pacs (stating you've not signed another PACS)
  - Copy of your ID's
  - Attestation de vie commune (stating the couple's home address)
  The foreign partner will also need:
  - Certificat de Coutume
  - Certificat de non-inscription au répertoire civil (unless you can prove you've been staying in France for less than one year).
  
  All the documents from your home country/embassy must be translated into French by a "traducteur assermenté". All the documents must be recent (- 3 months).
  
  Just E-mail me for details about where to get which document and how long it takes to get them. Once you have all the documents, call your Tribunal d'Instance for an appointment and sign your PACS.
  
  Whether you will be allowed to stay in France is a different story.
  
  Since your partner is French, theoretically yes. This also depends on your current status in France.
  Once you have your PACS, you will have to apply for a "Titre de séjour" and prove the Préfecture that this is a long term relationship (more than 1 year together in France, without interruption). Don't even try if it's less than one year!
  
  E-mail me about how to prove this.
  
  If the Préfecture accepts your documents, the foreign partner will first get an "Autorisation Provisoire de Séjour", This APS can be renewed until you get a "Carte de Séjour". This second document will also allow you to work in France.
  
  At that point, it is also likely that the foreign partner will have to go through the ANAEM procedure (health-ckeck, language skills etc.).
  
  I hope all this will help you. Don't worry too much, it's only half as complicated as it looks. Good luck!

  
  
  
  Hi Chris,
  
  I'm a foreigner currently studying a postgrad in Paris. I'm hoping to get in touch with you with regard to the PACS. My bf and I are both foreigners in Paris and he has a stable job (salaried) and we want to do a PACS. Could you get in touch with me as I have several questions? My email is at edmundchristian@hotmail.com.
• steve37500

  
   

  February 19, 2010 5:36:29 PM CET

  If a foreigner has entered into a PACS with a French, or for that matter EU, citizen, should the foreign partner not be allowed a Carte de Sejour "vie famille?"
  
  We are two Americans, who were PACS-ed last year. One of us holds dual citizenship, American and Italian.
  
  We applied for a 10 year card for the non-EU partner, and the Prefecture told us instead to just apply for the normal 10 year card, since we've been here since 2005.
  
  I wonder if they were just avoiding the more complicated question?
  
  
• marksi

  

  • 1 posts
   

  January 20, 2012 3:07:01 AM CET

  I'm an Italian guy living in the US with my american partner. We would like to move to France and were hoping that we could do a PACS agreement so that he would have the right to live and work in France. Does anyone know if the PACS would give him these rights? The websites give conflicting information on whether or not he could apply for the carte de sejour. From what we've read, it also seems highly variable depending on which Tribunal one goes to.
  Thanks for any help!