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marthamay
- 477 posts
March 16, 2011 1:19:20 PM CET

wesleynl (Mar 16 2011, 11:04 AM) said: > original post
Well good for you!

Hi Wes! How are you?
sydney_girl
- 2 posts
March 16, 2011 1:48:39 PM CET

I'm glad this isn't just me, i've noticed duvet's hanging out of window's, women not washing their hands (here in the center of Amstedam and suburbs as i've been out and about a lot)
And the ONE THING I CAN"T STAND!! why do people grab FOOD with their bare HANDS here? it's disgusting! i've stopped going to bakeries and other places where there is food there on display because of this. with the same hand they handle money and god knows what they handle food.
Also explains why i can't find tongs anywhere, they just don't use them! absolutely gross. I know the French do this too. But i had no idea the Dutch used their hands so much. I'm so grossed out, in Sydney this would be a health violation at a food shop.
I think it's going to be a long two years for me in Amsterdam
fortuner
- 10421 posts
March 16, 2011 2:35:59 PM CET

marthamay (Mar 16 2011, 12:19 PM) said: > original post

Hi Wes! How are you?

I'm ok... and how's you? Nice to see you back again.
fortuner
- 10421 posts
March 16, 2011 2:45:17 PM CET

sydney_girl (Mar 16 2011, 12:48 PM) said: > original post
I'm glad this isn't just me, i've noticed duvet's hanging out of window's, women not washing their hands (here in the center of Amstedam and suburbs as i've been out and about a lot)
And the ONE THING I CAN"T STAND!! why do people grab FOOD with their bare HANDS here? it's disgusting! i've stopped going to bakeries and other places where there is food there on display because of this. with the same hand they handle money and god knows what they handle food.
Also explains why i can't find tongs anywhere, they just don't use them! absolutely gross. I know the French do this too. But i had no idea the Dutch used their hands so much. I'm so grossed out, in Sydney this would be a health violation at a food shop.
I think it's going to be a long two years for me in Amsterdam

I've seen tongs used, in La Place, but for customers usually... I guess it could explain why I've had so many diarrhea problems since moving here.
monkeynuts
- 1415 posts
March 16, 2011 2:46:28 PM CET

sydney_girl (Mar 16 2011, 12:48 PM) said: > original post
I'm glad this isn't just me, i've noticed duvet's hanging out of window's, women not washing their hands (here in the center of Amstedam and suburbs as i've been out and about a lot)
And the ONE THING I CAN"T STAND!! why do people grab FOOD with their bare HANDS here? it's disgusting! i've stopped going to bakeries and other places where there is food there on display because of this. with the same hand they handle money and god knows what they handle food.
Also explains why i can't find tongs anywhere, they just don't use them! absolutely gross. I know the French do this too. But i had no idea the Dutch used their hands so much. I'm so grossed out, in Sydney this would be a health violation at a food shop.
I think it's going to be a long two years for me in Amsterdam

I go to a butcher's who slice the ham and handle meat, then take your coins. No visible evidence of washing hands - same with bakers.

Sorry, but this is totally against good food hygiene and I simply do not understand how they get away with it.
irishangel
- 670 posts
March 16, 2011 6:42:34 PM CET

peony (Mar 16 2011, 11:20 AM) said: > original post
For a shortish time in Nottingham and longer in Edinburgh. I worked for an international company there and locals in both places were very nice.

haha never let a scot hear you call them a brit!
Deleted Member
- 5427 posts
March 16, 2011 7:35:39 PM CET

monkeynuts (Mar 16 2011, 01:46 PM) said: > original post
I go to a butcher's who slice the ham and handle meat, then take your coins. No visible evidence of washing hands - same with bakers.

Sorry, but this is totally against good food hygiene and I simply do not understand how they get away with it.

They get away with it partly cos people like you continue to buy stuff from them.
Tell them about it or simply just don't go shopping there.
fortuner
- 10421 posts
March 16, 2011 8:56:55 PM CET

irishangel (Mar 16 2011, 05:42 PM) said: > original post
haha never let a scot hear you call them a brit!

Why, what will happen? They are British, just as the Welsh & English too...
osita
- 2285 posts
March 16, 2011 10:00:31 PM CET

pepec (Mar 16 2011, 10:18 AM) said: > original post
Dear people, you make me blush. Unfortunately I am rather busy today, so don't have much time to spend here.
Of course I don't hate the British, but in a way yes things from what I've seen fascinate me about the country. (I did meet and spend time with quite some Brits though. Lived in Roermond for a long time. Right across the border was a RAF base.) I doubt that one visit would make me understand. And I really wonder why it is that especially Brits have such a hard time here?

I don't think we do, to be honest. I have met and worked with a very large number of Brits and none of those I've been close enough to dare asking has even heard of Expatica. Most have Dutch partners and are settled apart from tiny niggles, like small supermarkets. There are differences, and I think these are most noticable in the workplace, mainly because Brits 'tactfulness' and Dutch 'directness' are at complete loggerheads. But in terms of weather, 'native' food, etc, we aren't exactly miles apart.

What Britain does have is a healthy quantity of NIMBYs (not-in-my-back-yard) and other finger-pointers: call it Island Mentality if you like. As a race, I don't think any humans handle change amazingly well, and expats who up and leave their homeland have enormous changes to cope with.

Please do visit the UK, but make sure to 'do' more than just London. If you head up north to where Fooky and I are from, or to the west country (or even Ireland!) you will find a very different breed of people - a bit like you may perceive Amsterdammers as being nothing like you
irishangel
- 670 posts
March 17, 2011 12:35:34 AM CET

wesleynl (Mar 16 2011, 07:56 PM) said: > original post
Why, what will happen? They are British, just as the Welsh & English too...

hahaha cause they dont like it And if you do william wallace will appear magically out of nowhere, yell freedom and show you his arse.
fortuner
- 10421 posts
March 17, 2011 2:40:29 AM CET

irishangel (Mar 16 2011, 11:35 PM) said: > original post
hahaha cause they dont like it And if you do william wallace will appear magically out of nowhere, yell freedom and show you his arse.

How... delightful!
peony
- 790 posts
March 17, 2011 11:42:28 AM CET

irishangel (Mar 16 2011, 05:42 PM) said: > original post
haha never let a scot hear you call them a brit!

I didn't mean for it to come that way. But we were talking about Brits and I worked and socialised with them while living both in England and Scotland. Since I did spend more time in Scotland, I should have metioned that Scots are great too.

Maybe I should call them Brits if it means William Wallace comes - I wouldn't mind seeing his arse.
fortuner
- 10421 posts
March 17, 2011 12:27:07 PM CET

peony (Mar 17 2011, 10:42 AM) said: > original post
Maybe I should call them Brits if it means William Wallace comes - I wouldn't mind seeing his arse.

He was pulled to bits sometime ago so I'm not sure what part will come...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Walla...e_and_execution

Hard to believe how horrible things could have been back then!
kelso1975
March 17, 2011 2:29:35 PM CET

wesleynl (Mar 16 2011, 07:56 PM) said: > original post
Why, what will happen? They are British, just as the Welsh & English too...

they will chop off your head!
i lived in scotland for 9 years, studies there at uni as an english girle. Loved it. Love the Scots, - brilliant! They do have a gripe with the English though and if you delve into the history between them you can iunderstand why. Im half scots and english. I do know thoughthat i would call a scot a scot and not English, and there great so im well happy to do it! - from experience.
fortuner
- 10421 posts
March 17, 2011 2:43:57 PM CET

kelso1975 (Mar 17 2011, 01:29 PM) said: > original post
they will chop off your head!
i lived in scotland for 9 years, studies there at uni as an english girle. Loved it. Love the Scots, - brilliant! They do have a gripe with the English though and if you delve into the history between them you can iunderstand why. Im half scots and english. I do know thoughthat i would call a scot a scot and not English, and there great so im well happy to do it! - from experience.

The Scottish I've known in the past have been very good for me too... hadn't noticed any gripe with the English though but I can understand, the English, going back in history, have a lot to answer for. But there's no point living in the past, wont be much of a future otherwise...
Of course, a Scot is a Scot, Welsh are Welsh and English are English... but they are all Brits!
I think in time, there will probably be a separation of complete governments so that they all govern themselves, which I think is long over due.
peony
- 790 posts
March 17, 2011 5:03:25 PM CET

wesleynl (Mar 17 2011, 11:27 AM) said: > original post
He was pulled to bits sometime ago so I'm not sure what part will come...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Walla...e_and_execution

Yes, that part is hard to miss when you live in Scotland. There is a statue of him in Edinburgh castle and he does look quite attractive.
Deleted Member
- 5427 posts
March 18, 2011 6:23:59 PM CET

Seeing as this is obviously a very emotive subject for some of us...I'd appreciate your thoughts on stringent control of handwashing after:

Underwear adjustment
Genital re-rrangement
Nose-picking
Ear rooting
Bottom scratching

Thank You

PS...The above applies to your own genitals,orifices etc. and not those of your partner or the person sitting next to you on the train
Deleted Member
- 7373 posts
March 18, 2011 6:29:14 PM CET

mrfook (Mar 18 2011, 06:23 PM) said: > original post
Seeing as this is obviously a very emotive subject for some of us...I'd appreciate your thoughts on stringent control of handwashing after:

Underwear adjustment
Genital re-rrangement
Nose-picking
Ear rooting
Bottom scratching

Thank You

PS...The above applies to your own genitals,orifices etc. and not those of your partner or the person sitting next to you on the train

Because you can pick your nose, you can pick your friends, but you can't pick your friend's nose.
marthamay
- 477 posts
March 18, 2011 7:16:30 PM CET

mrfook (Mar 18 2011, 05:23 PM) said: > original post
Seeing as this is obviously a very emotive subject for some of us...I'd appreciate your thoughts on stringent control of handwashing after:

Underwear adjustment
Genital re-rrangement
Nose-picking
Ear rooting
Bottom scratching

Thank You

PS...The above applies to your own genitals,orifices etc. and not those of your partner or the person sitting next to you on the train

Rubber gloves - in answer to all of the above.
haagseboy
- 180 posts
March 18, 2011 7:37:16 PM CET

mrfook (Mar 18 2011, 05:23 PM) said: > original post
Underwear adjustment
Genital re-rrangement
Nose-picking
Ear rooting
Bottom scratching
PS...The above applies to your own genitals,orifices etc. and not those of your partner or the person sitting next to you on the train

Indeed. Small personal luxuries such as these should be kept to oneself.
Deleted Member
- 5427 posts
March 18, 2011 7:40:11 PM CET

marthamay (Mar 18 2011, 06:16 PM) said: > original post
Rubber gloves - in answer to all of the above.

Kinky!
fortuner
- 10421 posts
March 18, 2011 10:50:16 PM CET

haagseboy (Mar 18 2011, 06:37 PM) said: > original post
Indeed. Small personal luxuries such as these should be kept to oneself.

Or shared with the one you fancy...

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